DailyHalacha.com for Mobile Devices Now Available

Halacha is In Memory of
 Chatton bat Lulu

Dedicated By
Nava

Click Here to Sponsor Daily Halacha
      
(File size: 4.14 MB)
If the Group or Part of the Group Recited Birkat Ha’mazon Without a Zimun

If a group of three or more people ate a meal together with bread, such that they are required to recite a Zimun before Birkat Ha’mazon, but they mistakenly recited Birkat Ha’mazon without first reciting a Zimun, they can no longer recite a Zimun. The Zimun can be recited only before Birkat Ha’mazon, and so if the group mistakenly recited Birkat Ha’mazon before reciting the Zimun, they cannot then recite the Zimun afterward.

This applies as well if three people ate together and two out of the three recited Birkat Ha’mazon without first reciting a Zimun. This group can no longer recite a Zimun.

However, if only one out of the three made the mistake of reciting Birkat Ha’mazon without a Zimun, but the other two had not yet recited Birkat Ha’mazon, the three of them can still recite a Zimun before the other two recite Birkat Ha’mazon. In such a case, those two fulfill the Misva of Zimun. The third does not fulfill the Misva – since he had already recited Birkat Ha’mazon – but he can nevertheless join the other two to enable them to fulfill this Misva, since he had been part of the meal. He recites the regular text of "Baruch She’achalnu Mi’shelo" just as he would if he had not first recited Birkat Ha’mazon.

The Bi’ur Halacha (essays accompanying the Mishna Berura by the Hafetz Haim) rules that this Halacha also applies in the case of ten people who ate together, three of whom mistakenly recited Birkat Ha’mazon without a Zimun. In such a case, the Bi’ur Halacha writes, those three can join the other seven for a Zimun such that the Zimun may be recited with the Name of Hashem ("Nebarech Elokenu She’achalnu Mi’shelo"). Since these three had been part of the group, they may join the others to form a Minyan for a Zimun even though they already recited Birkat Ha’mazon. Although the Hid"a (Rav Haim Yosef David Azulai, 1724-1806), in Birkeh Yosef, is uncertain about the Halacha in such a case, this is the ruling of the Bi’ur Halacha, as well as other authorities (including the Panim Me’irot and Kaf Ha’haim).

Summary: If a group mistakenly recited Birkat Ha’mazon without reciting a Zimun, a Zimun cannot then be recited afterward. However, if only one out of the three recited Birkat Ha’mazon without a Zimun, he can still join the other two to enable a Zimun (though he is not credited with the Misva of Zimun). Likewise, if ten people ate together, and three mistakenly recited Birkat Ha’mazon without a Zimun, they can join the other seven to allow for a Zimun with Hashem’s Name ("Nebarech Elokenu She’achalnu Mi’shelo").

 


Recent Daily Halachot...
Me’en Shalosh and Boreh Nefashot: Which is Recited First?
One Who Mistakenly Recited Al Ha’mihya Instead of Birkat Ha’mazon
Does One Recite a Beracha if He Resumes Eating After Reciting Birkat Ha’mazon or a Beracha Aharona?
Does One Recite a New Beracha if He Continues Eating After Reciting a Beracha Aharona?
Reciting Birkat Ha’mazon Over a Cup of Wine, and Reciting a Beracha Before Drinking
The Beracha of Hamosi Recited Over a Small Amount of Bread
Reciting a Beracha Aharona After Drinking Wine Before a Meal
Speaking After Washing One’s Hands for Bread, and After Mayim Aharonim
The Proper Beracha to Recite Over Toast or Dry, Crunchy Bread
The Berachot for Rice, Noodles, Gum and Flavored Vitamins and Medications
Reciting One Hundred Berachot Each Day
Answering to a Beracha, Kaddish or Kedusha After Washing Netilat Yadayim
The Beracha Over Raisinettes, Ice Cream Sandwiches, and Ice Cream Cones
What is The Beracha Rishona for Pits and Seeds, Such As Pumpkin Seeds (Bizit)
Beracha Rishona Is Required When Eating Any Amount of Food
Page of 239
3585 Halachot found